'Real cougar' on prowl to redefine stereotype in Oklahoma City

On a brighter note, that woman is pretty, but clearly airbrushed.

Jason - hostile? Hardly. What I meant, and I guess I should have said, because you obviously didn't understand, was that when someone says, "You said 5 months ago that you *blah blah blah*..." and then you say, "Show me the discussion where I said that..." you are actually expecting the average person to be able to remember exactly what article was in the news on that particular day? They might not remember in which discussion you said *blah blah blah* but they remember you saying it.

You seem to misunderstand a lot of what I say. Is it me, or is it you? My guess is me.

I can see Russia from my house

Honestly, why is this person even in the news? Is she friends with someone at DOK? If we need to read an article about horny women, at least get some young hot babe.

Jason, I admire you. I know I'm not your equal or even close to it in intelligence but I have a sister-in-law that loves to send jokes to me. Some are a little , shall we say, onthe slightly dirty side, but really funny. If you or anyone else likes to chat without getting steamed at my conservative "Bible thumping" life-style, my email is Floyd.Ingle@yahoo.com. I've given it before and only 3 people responded.I've also given how to find a newspaper story about me and only a few searched for it. I guess I'm just not too interesting.
I have what my wife's daughter set what she called a 50 foot tall fence protecting my computer where a 5 foot fence is enough. But I just use the darn thing for play so if a virus got through I would not care.
I thought this cougar story was the silliest in Oklahoman's history.

She's just lookin to some young meat///

And besides "justin's" foray into juvenalia, I survey nothing but *crickets* chirping... Whither art thou, savants? In any event, parting is such sweet sorrow, but I have a lunch date at one in Bricktown, so I must depart.

However, I'll check back in tonight if I get a chance, and, as always, my offer to provide an e-mail address if anyone wishes to discuss this or any other matter "off forum" - if, for instance, they object to my view on this or any matter for reasons they'd rather not put on the internet - at any time. This long-standing offer has not been taken up even once that I recall, but it's always out there.

Later, folks.

Ad hominem. Sounds just like a legislator. And isn't it strange that Jason wants to ignore instead of engage? Brock doesn't seem to have a problem, no matter how hard he and I have gone at it. Happy warrior. But Jason...I wonder if he treats his consituents this way? If they say something he doesn't like, puts them on "ignore?" And for someone claiming "ad hominem" (personal attacks), he has no problem calling anybody a "scumbag" at the drop of a hat.

And right on cue: just what I was talking about. Non-responsive, ad hominem, *and* off topic. Strike #1 for you, justin. Now, do you have anything substantive to add?

Jason obviously is claiming unemployment as he writes novels on message boards from home.

I'm relieved, Brock. And as much as I'm chagrined to admit it, yeah, I enjoy it too. Too bad you're wrong most of the time. ; )

Raven said:

"I love it when people say, "Post the link where I said that..."

Like a particular discussion from 6 months ago will even come up in a search..."

For starters, there is an ironclad rule that educated grownups stand by in such matters: those who make the assertions/accusations provide the proof for their claims. That is what reasonable human beings do, and I think of you as a reasonable human being, Raven - your sudden hostility I do not quite comprehend.

But let's put that aside and tackle your claim that Deann and Matthew cannot be bothered to provide said proof because it's been months ago. Searching my memory, I vaguely recalled three different topics I've commented on roughly six months ago or so. Using the "search" function you denigrate, I found ALL THREE OF THEM in about five minutes.

Here (with links):

http://newsok.com/sarah-palin-david-letterman-owes-women-an-apology/article/3377214?custom_click=lead_story_title

And here:

http://newsok.com/20-years-after-resigning-from-ou-barry-switzers-still-king/article/3378847?widgetOffset0=0&custom_click=lead_story_title

And here:

http://newsok.com/president-obama-signs-anti-smoking-bill/article/3379712

Now, since I'm not in the habit many of leveling charges for which I have not the slightest shred of proof, I've never encountered that problem when it comes to such matters.

Someone's logic is "weak," indeed...

Outlaw said:

"Jason came along and in a failed attempt to bail out his extremist buddy Brock, attempted to change the argument"

False. Once again, a savant accuses others of what he/she themselves are guilty of doing, or endured. Go ahead and post the entire exchange, please. A simple overview of it will show I stayed right on topic and addressed directly several of the issues you raised - it was you who refused to post a cogent reply.

I know you'll get right on posting the entire exchange with a link, right? Right? (....*rollseyes*...)

And still, among all of those replying in opposition to me since my post of 8:34 pm last night, there is not ONE substantive remark dealing with my stand on any issue or opinion I've stated, but on my PERSONALITY. That is the tell-tale sign of people who are simply not intelligent enough to refute their intellectual betters, and resent the hell out of it.

But go ahead and have some more fun, and keep chasing those "Who is Jason?" tails - it actually, physically makes me laugh out loud to see grown men and women play such childish, let alone erroneous, games. As I've said before, it bothers me not in the least if you want to think I'm this state rep you are all obsessed with, or Ho Ho the Clown's ghost, or the Cookie Monster, or Barak Obama taking time off of a busy morning to play devil's advocate with some semi-literates in Okay-see. Speculate away in such silliness - I'll keep laughing.

I am going to institute a new rule that has nothing to do with that, though: you can call it "The Jason Rule."

As of this morning I have the followig posters on *ignore*: Milkman, paul, yukon, stinkerpants, and one other I forget, but I know I have him on it because I'll enter some threads that say "you are ignoring 4 comments from 4 posters" (and I NEVER hit the "see-all" button, which I know compounds the attention-craving disappointment).

I reserve *ignore* for those who continually distract from the discussions here by constantly indulging in nothing but obsessive Jason-stalking and subject-changing. I don't do this for my sake, but rather for other poster's sake who no doubt tire of wanting to discuss the issues of the day and instead seeing a gaggle of sputtering, spitting, belching savants chasing me all around this forum. I cannot reply to what I can't see, so it saves all of us who actually want to discuss issues and topics a lot of time.

From now on, I'm going to give posters who reply to me three chances to deal in substance, and then they're going on *ignore*. This entire thread has been hijacked away from discussing the topic and opinions, and turned into a Jason Discussion Group. Which is fine: I love my fans, and every one of you obsessed with me really do want to be like me, which is why you are talking about *me*, the person, not my opinions. Deep down inside, you feel the intellectual inferiority which is yours to claim against mine to disdain - and though you openly (and loudly) resent it, you secretly want to claw your ways, intellectually, up to to my level. And each and every one of you engaging in this behavior knows it.

But after three swings at bat, I'm no longer going to waste any time with you. It's not fair to other posters. My *ignore* list will no doubt grow, but that's life.

For instance, "Outlaw, Edmond"? You have strike one for your personality-mongering reply (and lie) at 8:44 am. Want to dispute what I say or my opinion? Fine. Want to indulge in Jason-Obsession and tell falsehoods to boot? Two more whacks in that direction and on *ignore* you go.

Now, I do not expect to be treated with kid's gloves on this forum, because I have many strong opinions and express them forcefully. But I do expect posters to keep to the discussion at hand, and talk about issues, not indulge in an obsession with an anonymous, nameless* person on the other end of a keyboard on a discussion forum. Again, not for my sake - but for those who truly do want to discuss issues, not personalities.

With moderate contempt for you I am adddressing regarding this matter, I am, and remain, the one & only "Jason, Edmond."

Thank you and good day.

*Does *anyone* who posts on here actually use their "real" first name? If so, you need to return to AOL chat with the teenyboppers - that's the most laughable part of all.

Outlaw, there is no shift in my message. I've never disputed what your saying, I'm just telling you that we learn from our mistakes and change for the better. You choose to be bitter and hold on to things for all the wrong reasons. I'm just not going to allow you to completely white wash everything good that has come from the white man, Christianity or the overwhelming conservative principles that are the traditions, foundations, and insitutions that make this country great. I'm not saying everything was perfect within our history, but our's is most definately the best the world has ever seen. Yes, we will always need improvement. Yes, we must strive to ensure that improvement. But to disavow our advancements from our shortcomings and not realize that the rest of the world is by far, far worse in their transgressions upon mankind, is basically living life with your head in the sand. You don't have to buy it, and live with the hatred for this great country all you want, I don't care. Just don't expect to go scott free and spew your lame junk out there without reprisal. I'll knock it out of the park everytime like the hanging curveball it trully is. We are the greatest country the world has ever seen, because of our history that is founded on conservatism which ensures liberty, freedom and justice for all. That's why conservatism is still the largest political philosophy in the US. People understand it is the main one that ensures it and keeps the overeaching hand of the intrusive government upon the liberal ideology that brings about tyranny.

Stink, I enjoy our banter back and forth and have found some common ground with you. Who'd of thunk' it, huh? Btw, I never thought for a second that you were homosexual. ; )

Brock, there is no way I could decry the honor of your tribe or ancestors. Of that I'm confident we would agree. And yes, we could even have a beer, but I must warn you, I'm not gay. ; )

Paul, don't leave. Oklahoma needs more IQ points.

Raven, I agree. Ewwwwwwww.

And finally, back to topic, there ain't nothing wrong with older women, but I wouldn't refer to them as "cougars" and I can't imagine it's good for self-reference.

It can't be soon enough , Raven.

Just think, when I leave, okieland will have gotten a bit WORSE than before when I was here....

Nice attempt to shift the message Brock but I'm not buying it. You stated that christian America has always been about freedom and justice.

I call BS and cite the experiences of American Indians, Blacks (slaves and then civil rights), Japanese citizens in WWII, interracial marriages, etc....

You can't dispute that there have been many groups that have been denied justice and freedom in this country. All you can do is try and justify it and that isn't the same as disputing that your statement was absolutely invalid.

Nice try, but no dice. Christian America HAS NOT always stood for freedom and justice. These concepts have evolved in this country thanks to those "liberal/progressive" individuals you despise.

Stink, you fail again. I've never used the word "Scumbag" but have used the proper descriptive terms "leftist" and "Socialist" because they are relevant in factual terminology. That is "with cause" and not name calling. If the shoe fits, I have no problem placing it on the perpetrators.

I have family members that are homosexual but still don't agree with them and their attempt to "mainstream" their perversion in everyday life. I've never said I don't like them, rather I just don't approve of their behavior. Keep it to yourself and we'll be buds. I'll even drink a beer with you, but don't expect me to allow it to be taught to kindegartners as you wish. Your assumption does nothing but further your demise in the open arena of ideas. Why are you relegated to dishonest discourse and disoriented recollection? It seems to be intentional. Oh well, you lose credibility.

Outlaw, a portion of my heritage is Comanche. We were the scourge of the civilized Indians before the white man was even known. Yes, it's hard to believe, but Indians fought and killed each other before the supposed evil European came across the pond. My ancestors killed others for nothing more than to steal, rape and pillage. They held themselves superior to the other tribes with which they are associated. They were bred on war, on the fight, the spirit of freedom and openess, as well as the fierce determination to defend their territory. They were the uncontested champions of war, where no other tribe could challenge their dominance. Not the Apaches to the west, nor the tribes to the North and East. The white man did nothing that outdid their level. I have no remorse for those horrible actions of my forefathers, but in no way am I responsible for them. Get over it. I did.

Over the years and still today, the American Indian, on an individual basis recieves reperations and special consideration by the tens of thousands of dollars for any wrongdoing to their ancestors. It's my opinion that it's time these special considerations ended, but I don't see that happening anytime soon. You also refuse to understand that Black on Black slavery is 20 times worse in other countries than ours and is still occuring today. Americans realized their wrong doing and changed their ill ways yet you try to use the scenario in a lame attempt hundreds of years later to prop up your house of cards. Your second attempt here to disavow the advancements of European Caucasions for the masses and the willingness through Christian values to improve everyones liberty and freedom goes without mention. You keep your Anti-American stance and I'll call you on it everytime. Clear?

Btw, it's funny this came up here under this topic. Sorry for derailing it.

paul - when are you leaving Oklahoma? Soon?

I agree. But I know the stupid things I was doing when I was 13-15 and adults would take advantage of it, but it doesn't mean I was faultless. That is all I was saying. Of course she's at fault. And oh Lord, I just saw the picture. Yummy. *PUKE*

"Only two months in this hellhole."-----I know the feeling. I also know that once I get out of this dirtpatch, if I ever use airlines to get anywhere, I won't (read that as steadfastly refuse) to even have a connecting flight, layover, whatever, that involves okaysee or okieland, PERIOD.

Just the comments from the cowardly Jason on this and past threads, and the hypocritical, mindless, bigoted comments on the Ft Hood situation is enough to forever make me thank God each and every day I wasn't born an okie.

Well, she was the adult in the exchange, Raven. That means she is bound by law to know better.

Ok the 37 year old woman who raped the 13 year old...my friend works with the 15 year old's aunt. She said the family's version of the story is different. The kids take drugs & probably went there knowing they could get drugs from the mom. And possibly get hoo-ha also. So the woman is to blame, but they kids are smart enough not to do it, but stupid enough to do it too.

It's funny. Jason and Brock both fling the terms "Leftist" "Socialist" "Scumbag" and in the same breath decry namecalling. Here's something Jesus didn't tolerate. "But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire."

Jason Murphey is an interesting guy, Brock. For a guy who doesn't like gay people, are you sure what you are getting into?

According to the gossipboy website, Jason Murphey's father is allegedly involved with a religious church/cult with ties to child sex offenders. That he was home schooled by a religious freak does not surprise me or dispel any associations with the Jason, Edmond on this site. Very interesting.

BTW, I believe it was Brock who made the claim that freedom and justice where what this country has been about since the beginning. I disputed that statement citing among other things American Indians, Japanese Citizens in WWII, and the slaves as examples of injustice in American history.

Jason came along and in a failed attempt to bail out his extremist buddy Brock, attempted to change the argument. He didn't dispute the fact that our country has not always stood for freedom and justice, but merely tried to change the subject to one of his liking. When I didn't bite he decided to unilaterally claim victory even though he agreed with me in his response.

I don't think anyone who reads these posts regularly would be surprised that Jason is guilty of what he accuses other of doing. He is a proven liar when he denies that this sort of thing happens, too many people see when he is caught. What a loser. Want some proof Jason? I don't think that post has been deleted yet so you can't claim it never happened this time.

I love it when people say, "Post the link where I said that..."

Like a particular discussion from 6 months ago will even come up in a search anymore. Weak.

I see nothing wrong with this woman. But like the majority of people in this state they hav ea hateful view of people like. Only two months in this hellhole.

You're right about that. When discussing politics, in no way do they want to stay focused on the topic at hand. They always try to divert and zig zag to something else instead of defending the indefensible, which most generally ends up being them relegated to name calling. Thanks for posting, Jason! There are many that enjoy your input.

Thanks Brock - you do a pretty good job of the same yourself. It is, as you say, all too easy.

And notice how our scumbag Leftist/"progressive" friends who regularly post here never seem to get back to debating *facts*, or *issues*, or anything remotely resembling the matter at hand: they always focus on personalities - and indulge in the very tactics they attribute to others.

That's very telling, the inherent intellectual weakness of the scumbag Leftist/"progressive" position on about *any* issue, regardless of topic....

Wow, Matthew, Venice - one long litany of easily disproved lies.

1. Post one instance, with a link, where you think I've been "cornered" by your logic. In fact, the reverse is true, but go ahead and show us.

2. Contra your claim, you come off as one of the most joyless, hateful, and self-loathing "commenters" (Sic) on this site I've ever run across. Every post of yours I've ever seen on something happening here in Oklahoma has been cloaked in shrieks of being "ashamed," and "angry," and "filled with pity" at whatever it is you're not liking that particular day going on in the Sooner State. Like projectionists everywhere, you attribute to others your own neurotic actions.

3. Do you have anything substantive to add to this discussion, outside of focusing on *me*? Any factual evidence you wish to present to refute my opinions, assertions, or claims?

Anything? Anything?....

....(*snickers*)....

Wow. I've been a frequent reader and occasional commenter on this site for a long time. I've also gotten involved with debates with Jason from time to time. What I remember now is that when cornered, he will immediately throw an accusation at me about being gay, for no reason whatsoever. Now I'm beginning to understand. Poor guy. Regardless of his true identity, he's just an angry, joyless person. He starts his posts off with incendiary language and then draws people into debates. But his lengthy responses are always peppered with personal jabs and ad hominem attacks -- then he'll claim to be above doing such a thing.

Jason, as I always say, step away from the computer, go outside. Meet some people, have some fun.

It's comical how easily Jason ties the libs in knots.

Gail, Bethany said:

"Jason, Edmond, the light of my life is my six year old granddaughter. She and her mom have shared a home with me since her birth. There are those in my family who share your view to the point of refusing to allow her to take part in weddings as flower girl. I love what Rick Warren says in Purpose Driven Life, "In God's eyes there are no illegitimate children, only illegitimate parents." As far as the other name calling, Jesus Christ came from the tribe of Judah and one of his ancestors, Rahab, was a prostitute. I believe I have seen you refer to your Christian beliefs. When you stand before God will you ask Him why he allowed a whore to be included in the lineage of His Son? Just curious. Gail, Bethany - Nov 5, 2009 at 12:21 pm"

Wrong in nearly every particular, but the instinctive, emotional defensiveness and smarmy special pleading is scarcely surprising: people who are emotionally invested in defending what is wrong often don't think so clearly when confronted with untidy, unpleasant truths that disturb them.

This is obviously the case here. Nevertheless, let's take this in order:

1. Congratulations on your granddaughter. It is good she has a supportive grandparent to fill the void that her actual father has apparently left. This in no way lessons the fact that illegitimacy is a scourge of our society, one that was once aggressively discouraged through the proper application of just such attitudes - and language - as I used in my original post.

And why did society once view things this way? Not because they were "mean" or "non-caring" or any of that other politically correct cant one hears from the defenders of the "sexual revolution" today: they did it because (a) they cared about the health of society and knew that allowing men to sire children they had no intention of looking after was inherently corrosive to said society, and (b) because they cared about the dignity of women, as opposed to the easy vehicles of no-consequences sex the so-called "sexual revolution" has turned many of them into in the eyes of horny men. The irony of the "sexual revolution" was that it was triumphed by feminists to the ultimate detriment of women.

2. One tires of hearing counter-arguments to arguments I never advanced in the first place, and it is instructive to point out - as I seem to have to do ceaselessly - that is was *you*, Gail, not I, who brought Jesus and "religion" into this discussion: I made a quite secular argument against illegitimacy.

Nevetheless, the comment deserves reply. You suggest that because Rahab was in Jesus's family tree he would've been sympathetic to those who engaged in sexual license outside of marriage. But besides Rahab*, Jesus also had an ancestor who was both an adulterer and a murderer. His name was David. Are you suggesting that Jesus would have approved of David's adultery with Bathsheba, and his murder of Uriah the Hittite?

If you say A, in the case of Rahab and her alleged harlotry, you must say B, in the case of David and his adultery & deliberate commission of the act of homicide.

Is that what you're trying to peddle to us here today, Gail?

In conclusion, allow me to say that you are quite correct: one day I will stand before a judgement throne and answer for the life I have lived. I am, after all, a sinner.

But I don't think I will have to answer for my publicly stated belief that people should only have sex with those they are married to, nor for my belief that there is nothing so degrading to women and their status in our society as the consequences-free sex many craven, opportunistic men are able to extract from them.

*This puts aside the fact that many Biblical scholars no longer believe Rahab was a prostitute of any kind at all.

skanky! she should be ashamed of herself.

Why Stinkerpants, I do believe that is the first time I've been graced with a compliment from you *in best southern accent while batting eyes*. Thank you. As for "Don't Ever Call Me Ma'am", will skip that read. I think I'll write my own book, "Lionesses". We stick together, have enormous "pride" in our families and take care of them, bring home the bacon and fry it up in a pan (borrowed), have nicely manicured and pedicured "claws" and love a good fight but prefer our solitude. Everyone have a great evening enjoying the beautiful weather!

Not a good time to be joking about voices, Jason.

I was thinking the same thing, John, Edmond. It's a bit peculiar the way that line is phrased.

EVERYBODY go check out the myspace page stinkerpants listed. You'll find some amazing stuff there..seriously (all you have to do is look)

http://www.myspace.com/jwmurphey

Remarkable insight will be provided and you'll see a direct correlation between the "2 Jasons"...

Now interview her two ex husbands and see where the "successful" part came from.

Medical researcher? I don't see PhD behind her name...wanna bet she enters the info into the computer?

this a very prtty,confident lady...you can tell by her looks that she is a confident lady..very sexy for a older lady,nothing bad about that comment,she is beautiful lady......

Mommy,

Please make those voices STOP !!

"2. I don't give a whit who you savants think I "really" am, and am neither going to confirm or deny ANYTHING."----Sounds to me like Jason is the one who doesn't really *know* who he is.......the OCD ranter here, or the legislator (who just so happens to tout the same principles as his alter ego)....

"1. I stand 100% behind my original post on this article. The reason there is so much screeching about it is that the truth often is a painful thing to see in print - and what I said was 100% truthful."----So you ARE calling a bunch of your constituents sluts and bastards? I thought you were supposedly a Christian fellow? I guess not, eh?

Hmm. So, he doesn't deny it, and he didn't call his parents white trash.

I say the 2 Jasons being talked about are one and the same...."Jason, Edmond" has made far too many references to the areas mentioned in the website that did the report on him for it to be coincidence.

Sadly, "Jason, Edmond" will never have the b***s to admit if he were one and the same ..........

I see his myspace page lists the ONLY school as the online college in Ct.

LOL...I had a business meeting all day so missed the follow-up comments to my first one.

In order:

1. I stand 100% behind my original post on this article. The reason there is so much screeching about it is that the truth often is a painful thing to see in print - and what I said was 100% truthful.

2. I don't give a whit who you savants think I "really" am, and am neither going to confirm or deny ANYTHING. "Who Jason is" posts are just a silly distraction that has nothing to do with either the article at hand or my comments regarding it. It's an absurd way to to avoid talking about the issue, but the person holding the opinion. Like I said, believe what you want.

3. Deann said "He has claimed in that past that he was one of several children of "white trash" parents that lived on welfare" - that is a bald-faced lie, Deann. I have never said any such thing, anywhere, anytime. I challenge you to cough up the post where I made such a ridiculous (and false) statement.

I wouldn't be so sure, Raven. He does sound very edgy in his writings. Here is what his Myspace page says:

"The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane."

That's the object of life? Not loving your wife and children, or God, or doing good work? See what I mean?

http://www.myspace.com/jwmurphey

Oh no way...THAT Jason Murphey. LOL There is no way that is Jason Murphey. Nope, no way no how. Deann I am glad you stopped by today. I think you're absolutely right. I was thinking of a completely different person. That can't be him. Yes I do know him. Not well, but I have met him a couple times. I can't see him being Jason, Edmond. I will try to find out tonight, because I think I know where Jason Murphey lives.

Wow. Jason,Edmond is Jason Murphey? I'm not sure. I know Jason Murphey, and I don't see him using the language and insults that Jason, Edmond does so well.

Although I don't agree with much of Murphey's political leanings, I let him know what I think. He has always been respectful.

Jason, Edmond on the other hand is a real piece of work. I have ignored him for months, which makes reading these posts a lot more fun. He has claimed in that past that he was one of several children of "white trash" parents that lived on welfare. I don't think Murphey would make statements like that about his parents.

As for the Copa and the Horbana, well he could have been there. As I don't frequent those places, I wouldn't know. I did know a Mike Cronister from childhood, but don't think this is the same guy. The stuff about Murphey's church is disturbing, though. And, I knew about his "college" degree, misreprentation at the least. Also, he was homeschooled, didn't attend Guthrie schools growing up. That bothers me, too.

Raven, do you know Murphey? If so, what do you think?

If he is Jason, Edmond--and anybody can prove it, I'd sure like to know. It would blow his legislative job along with his darling Christian boy image out of the water!

Ahem!
Who are you?
We are three wise men.
What?
We are three wise men.
Well, what are you doing creeping around a cow shed at two o'clock in the morning? That doesn't sound very wise to me.

Outlaw, you are such a MAN! Kinda like a caveman! BILLY, MUSTANG - Nov 5, 2009 at 11:34 am

I've never said anything on this board to anyone that I wouldn't say to their face, so I guess I am a man Billy. Do you think it's OK to hide behind an anonymity of the internet to call people names and act like a jackass? Is that what you were taught a man was all about? I wonder about you sometimes.

Sounds about right, Billy.

stinker I really know that and no one has been forgiven more than me. I really understand what God can and will do, but I also know that God has a righteous side and won't be mocked! Jesus also had some pretty rough things for those that would not accept His "gift!" I can tell you I have a side that few in a church would like, if they wouldn't allow the daughter of someone that had made a mistake be a flower girl in a wedding! They have many more problems than the girl and Jesus came down on "religious" people the hardest!

I just wish that people thought about that part of Jesus when they call themselves Christians, Billy. Jesus laid it all on the line, every time, for all those that were considered "fallen".

stink...I'm impressed!

Gail--good post about Rahab. More than that, you must remember, Jesus mother, Mary, was pregnant with him before she married Joseph. The Bible says Joseph chose not to "put her away", which in those days meant stoning to death. Later, the Angel informs him she carried the Son of God. In Jesus' life, the priests also bring the adulterous woman before him, saying the law would require her to be stoned to death. It was then he said the "let he who is without sin" statement. I have often wondered if the priests were trying to set Jesus up, to question his legitimacy. After all, they wanted him killed. And still, he saved that woman.

Is she at least not a fat arse? LOL

Raven, the 37 year old is definitely NOT HOT! In fact, I think she's the polar opposite of hot. She's a "Haystack Calhoon" sort of girl who's been rode hard and put up wet a number of times. I feel sorry for the 13 year old kid, not because of the experience itself, but because of who it was with.

No that was really happening.

:) We do get prettier at closing time. All of us.

Worse than that, the girls all got purdier at closing time!

hehehe and it turned the mediocre guys into Paco the pool boy. Every single one of them. LOL

I think drinking, completely tells that part of the brain that keeps screaming, "Don't do it," in neutral! At least it did for me!

hehehe me too. That is one of the reasons I quit too. That, and I kept waking up in strange places. Or waking up at home and not remembering how I got there. Or waking up and there were strange people crashed out in the living room. It is crazy trying to wake up strangers and telling them to get the f* out of your house.

Raven, let's just say, "I ain't right, when I drink!"

LMFAO - did you get to the point that you weren't sure who that chick was waking up next to you each morning?

Yeah, one reason I quit drinking!

Billy - Now that you mention it, most of the chicks who do this to kids are usually semi-hot blondes. I bet you're right though. Hm...but I've been "drunk enough" a couple times to do stuff that I would talk crap about other people doing when I'm sober. LOL And I'm not talking 13 year old boys!!!

Where does she go out on Friday night?

Gail there are some sick people in your family and I certainly don't mean your daughter and grand daughter!

Raven, this boy is ruined for life. Even if he was 13 and drunk...he should passed. I bet the boy will be ruined for life!It will be interesting to see if she walks like the good looking teachers usually do! Send a message...ugly people do NOT rape!

Gail...BURN. :) Good one.

Jason, Edmond, the light of my life is my six year old granddaughter. She and her mom have shared a home with me since her birth. There are those in my family who share your view to the point of refusing to allow her to take part in weddings as flower girl. I love what Rick Warren says in Purpose Driven Life, "In God's eyes there are no illegitimate children, only illegitimate parents." As far as the other name calling, Jesus Christ came from the tribe of Judah and one of his ancestors, Rahab, was a prostitute. I believe I have seen you refer to your Christian beliefs. When you stand before God will you ask Him why he allowed a whore to be included in the lineage of His Son? Just curious.

Thanks Billy. I'll try to check it out when I get home. Even my bf's from when I was 13 had standards. What's wrong with this boy?

Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay not!

OK I hate to ask, but I can't see the pics from this computer...except on TW for some reason. Is the 37 year old that raped the 13 year old hot? Or not.

What is this article about anyway? Some middle aged female who likes younger men? BFD

She will end up in the pen, because of her looks, she will not walk! That boy might really be damaged for life!

BILLY --- HAHAHAHAH That was FUNNY

Jason may be an elected official? If he is the intelligent educated people of Oklahoma elected him. Edmond no doubt. Jason, masterbation is not right, even if it is not your hand you are using and you will burn for it. Go to church and pray and let me know how speaking to vapor works for you.

Is the woman two articles above also a "cougar?"

Outlaw, you are such a MAN! Kinda like a caveman!

I also recall Jason mentioning the Habana Inn many, many times in his past posts.....and I see that place and he are both mentioned in the same story on the link provided.....

More coincidence? Once again, methinks NOT.

cougar = older milf = gilf..."real" cougar? give me a break, i know plenty of older women who would date a younger male in a heartbeat! this article makes little sense....

Jason Murphey huh? When Jason and I first crossed paths he accused me of being a homosexual who frequented the Copa and Habana Inn. After reading Jason Murphey's background I now understand why those places where fresh on his mind. Murphey got his college degree "with honors" from and online university that makes the University of Phoenix look like and Ivy League institution. What an a$$hat, a very repressed homosexual (alleged!). Seems to fit, maybe I pay him a visit now and see if he's as bold in person. My guess is that he's a big pussy.

Stinkerpants, I just briefly read the link you posted, and I do remember "Jason, Edmond" stating he went to college in Ct., as the article implies.

Coincidence? Methinks NOT .

I think Jason needs to get laid by something other than his hand...a ton of hate in each posting. Probably goes to church too.

How impressive! Why don't you simply act your age, lady. A man (or boy) of ANY age will not turn down sex with most anyone, so while you're flattering yourself just remember...one day you'll be older and not quite so stuck on yourself.

HEALDTON — A 37-year-old woman has been charged with first-degree rape and contributing to the delinquency of minors, after a 13-year-old boy told police the woman gave him prescription drugs and alcohol and had sex with him.

Posted above the Oklahoma cougar story on page one of Newsok.com. A more criminal and unsavory Cougar, for sure!

Thanks paul, for the link.

Ersland will be found not guilty. Like a challenge in football, there is no indisputable evidence that the kid was no longer a threat.

Back to your regularly scheduled program. Cougars.

I'm just sayin'.

Wow- That could explain his bitter hatred toward the below mentioned "Cougar"

Here's the deal--Jason was on here, flinging some pretty hard language (as you see) at people. Then a story broke from a gay group that suggested Murphey is a closeted gay guy. The information was iffy, but Murphey responded with a long diatribe that sure looked an awful lot like, gosh, the "Jason" on here. A lot. It also seemed self-incriminating. His response was taken down later. When people started digging at him on here about it, he would respond as if he thought they were the guy who had outed him. (I'm sure not that person). But it revealed him. So...several have been pointing it out. He's never denied it directly, but instead tells readers to put those people on ignore so they won't be able to read what they say. That's the deal in a nutshell. The website with the claims, which is questionable, is here: http://www.gossip-boy.com/Jason_Murphey.html . The activist who wrote it I'm told has a questionable history, and I ain't him, don't know him, and probably don't want to. But things "Jason" says are alarming.

Here's a question..what's she look like without all the makeup and glamour shots angles?

"Oh... Paul thanks, last I had checked (last night) they weren't allowing comments due to it locality"

Here's the link:

http://newsok.com/article/3373186?widgetOffset0=0#comment

What I find ironic is that "Jason, Edmond" doesn't have the stones to admit he might indeed be who some of us speculate he is, which leads me to believe that he's both pandering to his constituents by NOT letting his true views on issues show, or he's just plain old out and out lying about his views on these boards.

Multiple personality, perhaps?

Afraid he might lose the next election if he did admit he were one and the same?

Maybe he's just afraid of losing his cushy job because he deplores hard work?

Oh... Paul thanks, last I had checked (last night) they weren't allowing comments due to it locality.

Raven, we're in the same boat. I would love to believe that Murphey is "our" Jason but I need a more tangible link.

On another note, I think Jerome Ersland is indeed guilty of murder, but I'm not convinced an Oklahoma court will convict him.

"Since this article is filler, does anyone have any comments about the Ersland case?"--There's a thread running on that, and there are some 5200 responses so far.....

Raven, I don't (for sure), but then again, I never said I did. The only reason I posted the link was so you could find the facebook page you said you were looking for.

paul - but how do you know it is 'THIS' Jason?

Josue--I'm waiting to see what he tells you.

Since this article is filler, does anyone have any comments about the Ersland case?

I am a single mom too, and I hardly think that makes me a slut or a Ho.I have an SUV, hot flashes, dishes to wash, and many other things that married women my age have. No, I don't want to date a younger guy-my kids would be horrified.

Can you direct me through the link to where it proves that he's in fact Rep. Murphy? I'm sure he will rant and rave that it's not him.

Matthew 7:1

I began prompting him about it a while ago. But boy, does he have a mean streak!

I'm glad he doesn't represent my district....

There are some seriously middle-ages type views in this thread. The only reason I see any difference in how I view an older person of one sex dating a younger person is emotional maturity. Its a scientifically proven fact that the average male matures emotionally at a much slower rate that a female. So a 54 year old man dating a 24 year old female on average is dating a female that is emotionally at least 24 if not older. The other way around, typically the woman would be dating a guy with the emotional maturity of a teenager.

She should charge young men for helping them to get through their Oedipal complexes--oh, wait, that would be prostitution...

Here ya go, Raven.

http://jasonwmurphey.com/index3.php

I say you go girl!! I would love to be that confident at that age which isnt really that old !! You are very lovely and deserve the guys that chase you you worked for it!! hahah

Its still just plain creepy.

Seems odd that since stinkerpants mentioned this, I haven't seen any posts by Jason. This isn't the only place that it has been mentioned. How do you know this stinkerpants? I kind of think stink is right...he said he was easy to find on FB, although I haven't found him yet.

Since okieland LOVES the phrase "world class", Jason, does that make okieland a "world class" leader in producing what your post mentions?

If Jason is indeed who stinkerpants claims he is...doesn't it seem strange that this guy is an elected legislator, and uses this board as a medium to convey his thoughts?

Is this the sort of elected official you want making decisions for you?

Also, since okieland ranks dead last in nearly everything good, why don't some of you ask him whats he's done to correct it??

By the way, Cathy if you are crazy enough to read these comments, I think you are pretty hot too. However, I'm 50, so way to old and my wife probably wouldn't approve anyway.

Wow! Typical backwood, ignorant redneck Okies jumping out there condemning anyone that has moved past the 18th century. She's probably a witch too. Let's burn her a the stake!!!

Strange little bit of information, you might find it interesting: Not everyone who has a kid w/o being married is a slut.

""Single motherhood" used to be called what it is: a slut with a bastard. Part of what is wrong with society today is that it no longer is."---And since okieland leads the nation in unwed teen mothers, I guess Jason is saying that okieland leads the way in unwed teen sluts with bastards, eh??

Thanks, Jason.

Jason...just when I thought you were a semi- decent person you go and say something like that. Perfect.

$20 her ta-ta's are faux-faux's.

This is an odd story. Not that there's anything wrong with older women...but why use a stereotype that's negative to to define oneself in the first place? I dunno. Weird.

April, Jason of Edmond is a terrifically repressed and very effed-up guy. Just complete bat guano, but mean about it. He's state rep. Jason Murphey--go look it up.

see=she

I would be so proud if see was my Mom. Is mom a bad word?

I want her!!!! She's schmokin hot!!!

The article is about changing stereotypes. And BTW, Jason, I think you are a complete idiot! I am a middle aged single mother, and far from ever having been a slut. I am single because my ex-husband chose to have an affair that resulted in her getting pregnant. I would be a whore if I had STAYED in that relationship (isnt that the same thing as $ for sex??), however, I have moved on, I dont have bastard children and I have a career, a retirement plan, financial security, and all those things NOT associated with single motherhood. Call it what you will, but you labels are just that...labels. They mean nothing.

What would you talk about with a "young" man??? Like, um, the next Brittany Spears album, or the sequel to Twilight??Oh wait, I guess these ladies aren't wanting any meaningful conversation....I would rather go without than stoop to that.

And why didn't they show a picture of this Cathy the Medical Researcher? This author lady, er-REAL COUGAR, has the money for Jose Ebert haircuts, face lifts, personal trainers...I don't know anyone who looks like that around my neighborhood. (except me, of course!!)

What a ridiculous article. I agree with the person that questioned why she agreed to the press. This seems like nothing more than a glorified personal ad to me and I'd be embarrassed if I were her. There was really nothing presented in this article that showed how she was going about changing the stereotype of cougar. Meh. That's the Oklahoman for you, junk press and lousy writers.

And even though your language was a little harsh, I do agree with Jason. If this society returned to the values, morals, and traditions that we used to hold dearly to, our country wouldn't be in such a mess.

I'd have to disagree with Jason. I'm certainly no spring chicken (looking at 50) but I'm dating a gal a few years older. What is attractive to me? Well she is financially secure, as am I. She has a career and a retirement plan, as I do. She isn't some young gal looking for and expecting a handout from the next guy that comes along.

I've dated younger women and they all seem the same to me. They have a brood of fatherless kids, have no career, are in a desperate financial situation, and are laying on the path like a rattlesnake, for the next guy to walk buy (pun intended).

Having said that... I think it is a photoshopped picture, too and her comment about some young 20 something guy asking her out is hilarious. Don't consider that flattering, I don't know that I've ever met a 20 year old guy with a "cull list".

There is no fool like an old fool. Jason, I agree.

"Single motherhood" used to be called what it is: a slut with a bastard. Part of what is wrong with society today is that it no longer is.

As to the story, these women are, to stick with a theme, little more than unpaid whores - and proud of it. It is flabbergasting that someone would think they could appropriate a term - "cougar" - which is code for "I sleep around" and *NOT* think they are going to "inherit a degrading label." The "label" fits.

It's astonishing, the level to which this society continues to slowly sink into the cesspool of immorality, smiling & laughing all the way to the bottom.

"Remember when single meant never married?" (Jeff) No, I don't ever remember that, Jeff. Single has always just meant not married to me. It doesn't have anything to do with children. Have you ever heard of divorce?

Jeff...interesting point. What is single motherhood now associated with?

What IS an older man who chases young women called? Used to be called a cradle robber.

I'd tap dat azz fo sho!

What is a 54 yr old Man who chases young Women called ???
S T U P I D !!!

Would like to see a full-length unretouched photo instead of a head shot that's been photoshopped.

More power to her, but it makes you wonder why she agreed to the press? Everybody is different...