OKLAHOMA CITY (AP) _ Oklahoma wine makers fear their fledgling industry is doomed to wither on the vine unless they win the right to distribute their products to package liquor stores and restaurants without using a wholesaler.
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But legislation that would set a statewide vote of the people on whether to do just that has been bottled up in a state House committee for much of the past year while wholesalers and wine producers haggle over details that opponents say threaten to undermine Oklahoma's three-tiered system of alcohol distribution.
Lobbyists for wholesalers and the Oklahoma Grape Growers and Wine Makers Association have met repeatedly with House leaders — including Republican House Speaker Chris Benge — over the past month to negotiate a compromise that would grant self-distribution to wine makers without threatening the system that has been in place since voters repealed prohibition in 1959.
The measure, passed by the Senate last year, is finally scheduled to be heard by the House Rules Committee this week.
The bill would order a statewide referendum on a constitutional amendment to permit Oklahoma wineries as well as wineries in other states to sell up to 10,000 gallons of wine a year directly to package stores and restaurants, more than many of the wine maker group's 55 family farm operations produce.
Oklahoma wineries were given that right in 2000 when voters approved a statewide referendum that gave small wineries the right to sell directly to retail establishments. The measure passed in all 77 counties with 78 percent of the vote.
The law was challenged by liquor wholesalers who said it discriminated against out-of-state wineries who were not allowed to sell directly to liquor stores or restaurants in Oklahoma. A federal judge struck it down in 2006.
"We just want to get back to where we were," said James McSpadden, who represents wine growers. "This would provide cheaper Oklahoma wine for consumers, which would make Oklahoma wine more successful in the marketplace."
Under the current system, McSpadden said, an Oklahoma wine maker who wants to sell a case of wine to a local liquor store must transport the wine to a liquor warehouse in Oklahoma City or Tulsa, where it has to sit for 24 hours before it can be trucked back to the liquor store in the winery's hometown.
"It's absurd," McSpadden said. "When we have to sell to a wholesaler, we have absolutely absurd drive times."
Many Oklahoma wineries grow grapes, make their own wine and operate small restaurants on their own property. But under current law, wine makers must sell and ship their wine to a warehouse which then sells and ships the wine back to the restaurant after a markup in price of about 20 percent, McSpadden said.
State wines can still be marketed in Oklahoma at special events like state and county fairs.
Gary Butler, past president of the wine makers organization and operator of the Summerside Vineyards & Winery in Vinita, said he has struggled to get bottles of his winery's Cabernets and Rieslings in local liquor stores since self-distribution ended.
"It's a little frustrating," Butler said. "The liquor stores are calling and the wholesalers are not carrying it. They're geared for big operations. The small wineries fall through the crack."
House Democratic Leader Danny Morgan of Prague, author of the wine bill, said it is only intended to bring wineries back to where they were before self-distribution was ruled unconstitutional.
"These is merely trying to help our local wineries try to get their product in the marketplace in a cost effective manner," Morgan said.
"I've really had some difficulty since we lost self-distribution," Butler said. "It's definitely not working."
A spokesman for liquor wholesalers, former state Republican Party leader Chad Alexander, said wholesalers fear self-distribution by wine makers will erode the three-tiered system of producer, wholesaler and retailer that has defined alcohol distribution in Oklahoma for almost 50 years.
"That's always been the concern," Alexander said. "If we have a self-distribution law, it affects everybody."
If state lawmakers alter part of the distribution system then other parts might also be changed or become ineffective, he said.
"We need to do it in a careful, responsible manner," Alexander said. "This is about the regulations of alcohol. That's the thing that got everybody concerned."
Morgan said the statewide referendum that allowed wineries to self-distribute in 2000 was proposed because wholesalers did not carry products from small Oklahoma wineries and when they did they added a substantial surcharge, making locally produced wines noncompetitive.
"When those wineries were allowed to self-distribute, I didn't see any erosion in what the wholesalers are trying to do," he said.
McSpadden said wine makers have agreed to many wholesaler demands for changes to the wine bill including prohibiting co-ops from self distribution, elimination of Internet sales and direct-to-consumer shipping and requiring wineries to distribute their own products, not those of others.
The measure also includes stiff penalties on any winery that exceeds the 10,000-gallon limit, including a $10,000 fine per infraction and elimination of self-distribution rights for three years after the second infraction.
"We've been working this bill hard," McSpadden said. But the level of support it will receive is hard to predict, he said.
Butler said changes are needed to help Oklahoma wineries become as successful as those in nearby states like Texas, whose wine industry generates $1 billion a year.
"People are interested in buying wines that are grown locally," Butler said. "But there are some flaws in the system for the small winery."
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Are you freak'n kidding me? A blind, mute duck can figure out what's going on here. WTF!?!?!? We voted on this! Are the judges in the wholesalers' pockets, too? The argument wholesalers used to get the people's mandate thrown out - that the law discriminated against out-of-state wineries - is hilarious...but very clever! Did the wholesalers use O.J.'s attorneys? Lets get this fixed and let producers sell their product. Incredible.
Floyd, that's just now how these bible thumpers see it. All they see is that this is something that will make life more difficult and expensive for alcohol producers and consumers.
And who ARE these wholesalers? I mean every article you read speaks of them as some faceless entity. You rarely ever here a name except for their lawyers. What is the name of the principals in these companies, where do they live, what are the names of these folks? I bet inquiring people want to know. How about it Oklahoman ... gonna name some names?
What's the deal with the democrats grabbing the lead on a pro-commerce, pro-small business issue? I know most of the GOP is strongly supported by local churches, most of in Oklahoma frowning on alcohol of any sort, but I can't see this bill will increase alcohol consumption in any way. It will only cut into the profits and power of those who make the most from the liquor trade in the state. That should get the support of even the most tee-totaling Baptist preacher.
we have some great local wineries in this state that could be the founders for a new indurstry in OK. Its a shame that a few liquor wholesalers are probably going to crush this industry that has the potential to be a great attraction for our state.
As my famous namesake of the French Revolution, Maximilien Robespierre, once said, "Any institution which does not suppose the people good, and the magistrate corruptible, is evil." Wake up, Oklahoma.
Hmmm, so you decide to exacerbate the situation by buying wines in other states, thus hurting our local wineries even more. What kind of solution is that. How about this... write extensively to the wholesalers for keeping Oklahoma behind the times. They are our real enemies. A bunch of has beens has kept Oklahoma from getting the good domestic beer, and is now trying to kill our local wineries. You people are pointing the gun the wrong direction. Aim it at the wholesalers.
Our liquor laws are a joke, but we can hold these legislators accountable. The thing they fear most is sunshine and accountability. Let's let them know we're paying attention to how they treat Oklahoma farmers (and which lobbyists butter their bread).
I agree that we have some really backward laws and we are behind with most states. Tatoos took how long for crying out loud!! Get out of the 1950s and let's get with what the PEOPLE want!!
Well, that's what you get when you re-elect legislators of the good ole boy class. They are all crooked to some extent. This is what happened to coal gasifacation plants that an energy company wanted to bring to Oklahoma, but Chesapeake lobbied ann got it killed in committe. They said we have enough natural gas to run the electric plants. So, we can look for a 50% increase in electric bills this year. Thank you very much Oklahoma. We really need to clean out Oklahoma City.
Jackie said it best. Its easy, just drive to Missouri and buy all the wine you want directly from the vineyards. Just skip the stores. We don't get into it much except for cooking but friends make a monthly trip to Missouri to stock up for cooking, parties, and heart medicine. Yes, many doctors advocate wine for heart disease prevention or treatment. So, then we get into the proverbial friendly family argument over the Bible and wine. I don't know why, nobody changes their view, no new people drink, no drinkers stop. But sure enough its fun to watch them debate the issue.
Wholesalers are the remants of bootleggers during prohibition. They were against repeal because it would cost them money. Then they captured the legislature and made sure legal alcohol still made money for the old bootleggers. The bootleggers still control the Oklahoma legislature. It's all about the money.
Another fine job of our legislators fleecing us. The wholesalers have so much to lose that they can donate maximum campaign donations to any legislator that they can get his/her vote, just like the abstract companies that are antiquated and should be done away with. These two things would save Oklahomans MILLIONS of dollars a year.
How touching ... such civic mindedness by the wholesalers ... "This is about the regulations of alcohol. That's the thing that got everybody concerned." Excuse me while I choke on my 3.2 beer.
These wholesalers are a small cartel whose interests are focused and closely held; They want to keep the lock on it. The only thing the wholesalers are worried about is their own greedy profit. The legislators should listen to the PEOPLE, not the lobbyists ... but that would be out of character for some.
It appears once again that our state lawmakers are trying to sustain an industry they created (we won’t go into turnpikes). After a vote of the people allowing Winery’s to sell to retail establishments our legislators should have understood that our 1959 laws were inadequate. Our liquor laws need to be completely rewritten, a three-tiered system, liquor only being sold in “liquor stores”, and 3.2 beer are as outdated as the flattop hair cut I had in 1959. Our legislators need to look at successful systems in other states and emulate them. What I want are laws that benefit the people and industries state of Oklahoma not liquor wholesalers.
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Good question that the legislature can't or won't answer.
These wholesalers are a small cartel whose interests are focused and closely held; They want to keep the lock on it. The only thing the wholesalers are worried about is their own greedy profit. The legislators should listen to the PEOPLE, not the lobbyists ... but that would be out of character for some.