Grocery store sales sought

By Ron Jenkins
Published: January 5, 2008

A proposed petition drive to allow Oklahoma wineries to sell their products to grocery stores is still alive, a consultant said Friday.

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Meanwhile, several bills to help winemakers recover from a legal setback have been introduced for the 2008 legislative session, which begins next month.

Larry Wood, who is working on the grocery store proposal for Oklahomans for Modern Laws, said fundraising efforts for a petition drive would be stepped up, now that the holiday period has ended.

"We have various groups out raising money for us,” Wood said. He said the group wants to raise $400,000 for a petition drive. He said he knows of one pledge of $75,000 and one potential contributor has offered to "top off” the fundraising effort once a majority of the money is raised.

Wood had announced the petition drive would begin late last year, but said it was delayed until enough money could be raised to hire a professional signature-gathering firm.

Wineries are split on grocery proposal
Gary Butler, president of the Oklahoma Grape Growers and Wine Makers Association, said he is optimistic lawmakers will pass two bills — one to permit direct sales on a limited basis to the homes of wine lovers and one to allow restricted sales to restaurants and liquor stores.

Butler said his association has "kind of taken a neutral position” on the proposed initiative petition, which would permit wine to be sold in grocery stores.

"It is something some members support very strongly,” Butler said. "Almost an equal number would like to stay neutral on it because they have built a good relationship with liquor stores.”

Wood said most wineries support the proposal.

"A couple of the big ones don't because they don't want competition,” Wood said.

The number of wineries in Oklahoma grew from a handful to more than 30 after a state question was adopted several years ago in a statewide vote to permit winemakers to sell to liquor stores and restaurants.

In 2006, however, a federal judge ruled the law unconstitutional because it discriminated against out-of-state wineries.

The ruling went into effect last July, leaving some Oklahoma winemakers with nowhere to sell their products except at special events like county and state fairs, unless they went through a wholesaler.

New bill would consider out-of state wineries
Butler said a bill to allow winemakers to "self distribute” their products to liquor stores and restaurants would give small wineries a chance to grow.

The proposal, by Rep. Don Armes, R-Faxon, would limit such sales by individual wineries to 10,000 gallons of wine a year. It seeks to meet constitutional guidelines by allowing out-of-state wineries to do the same.

Armes said as a practical matter, big out-of-state wineries would continue to market their products from wholesale to retail because they sell much more than 10,000 gallons of wine each year in Oklahoma

Bills to allow direct shipments of wine to Oklahoma homes have been introduced by Reps. Jeff Hickman, R-Dacoma, and Al McAffrey, D-Oklahoma City.

Butler said those measures, which limit the amount of wine an individual could purchase, would "open the door to thousands of wine labels that are not available to Oklahomans today unless they go to a winery in another state.”

Armes said he has involved wholesalers in discussions on his bill in hopes they go will go along.

James McSpadden has been retained by the wineries to lobby for their legislation.

"We will be tweaking the language in those two bills quite a bit because we are having ongoing negotiations with wholesalers,” McSpadden said. "They've been willing to sit down at the table with us, which we appreciate.”

McSpadden said it is unlikely any legislation would pass to allow grocery store sales of wine.

"If it does come up as a state question, it would have to be done as a petition,” McSpadden said.


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"Between the scummy politically correct left and the holier-than-thou religious right I don't know who is worse when it comes to nanny-state government."...Tough choice, but I will go with the latter here in Oklahoma...Definitely aggravated by the morality police
ROGER, MOORE - Jan 6, 2008 3:55 PM
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Larry, your post at 4:21 pm is spot-on and exactly right. Kudos!
Jason, Edmond - Jan 5, 2008 6:15 PM
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Every time I travel out of state I'm reminded of the noxious influence of the Southern Baptist crowd when I walk into a Safeway or 7-11 and see liquor, wine, and full strength beer for sale on the shelves. Between the scummy politically correct left and the holier-than-thou religious right I don't know who is worse when it comes to nanny-state government.
Jason, Edmond - Jan 5, 2008 6:14 PM
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Because the wholesalers have a lot of money and they will be willing to spend it to influence any lesgislative vote or state question vote. But they are only part of the problem. The other part is that a significant percentage of this state is populated by people who feel that it is their god-given holy duty to make it as difficult as possible for people to "sin". These are also the same people who would have you believe, without any proof, that if we allowed grocery wine sales or, god forbid, cold full strength beer sales that Oklahoma roads would be instantly transformed into highways of death due to a huge increase in drunk driving.
Toby, Midwest City - Jan 5, 2008 4:21 PM
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Why do we let the wholesalers control our state? I would like to have Whole Foods here in Oklahoma.
Margaret, Holdenville - Jan 5, 2008 1:57 PM
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Unfortunately we still have way too much banjo music playing in our legislators minds...Time to peel away one more backwoods law...They really only need one document to review before it comes up for a vote...Each desk needs a calendar with the year circled
ROGER, MOORE - Jan 5, 2008 11:56 AM
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Agreed on both points, Larry. If our legislators can manage to pass legislation to allow wine sales in grocery stores, Whole Foods would probably start plans to bring a store here within 30 days.
Chris, Oklahoma City - Jan 5, 2008 6:37 AM
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Just having to discuss this shows what a backward state we are. We ought to be able to walk into any grocery store, like in most other states, and pick up a bottle of wine to take home to have with our dinner. And while they're at it they can dump that 3.2 crap on the beer aisle and stock it with the real full strength stuff.
Toby, Midwest City - Jan 5, 2008 12:56 AM
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