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Stoops on thin ice with Jarboe

By Berry Tramel
Published: August 1, 2008

NORMAN — By now, you've probably seen Josh Jarboe's YouTube video, and if you haven't, consider yourself lucky.

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Jarboe's jabbering about shooting people — two months after he pleaded guilty to carrying a gun onto a Georgia high school campus — shows that he is undeserving of an Oklahoma scholarship.

But that doesn't mean he won't get a third chance. Bob Stoops is not the most sentimental of souls, no Father Flanagan, but he has a solid track record turning troubled players into solid citizens, or getting rid of them before they embarrass the school and the state too much.

Stoops indicated Thursday he won't remove Jarboe from the squad.

"Kick a guy off the team for what he says?” Stoops said. The whole Internet culture frustrates Stoops. "We're starting to talk about everything kids say and do,” Stoops said. "Now we're in people's homes, in their private spaces.”

Maybe so. But the same youth culture that makes this kind of video acceptable also knows that YouTube is the destination of any interesting video. Jarboe himself took this from private to public.

Jarboe's status certainly is a reasonable debate.

It was no clear choice for Jarboe to even be welcome in Norman in the first place, after he was charged with a felony in March and pleaded guilty in May. A judge reduced the conviction to a misdemeanor under Georgia's First Offender's Act, otherwise Jarboe would not even have been eligible for a scholarship, under OU policy.

Oklahoma media did not chastise Stoops for taking the gamble; he had earned the right to be trusted on such dicey decisions.

Now, Jarboe has burned Stoops. The video calls into question whether Jarboe has any clue of the gravity of what he did last spring.

Among the lyrics of his rap:

"...Shoot ya in you head, you might be dead, with a halo.

"I put his a** in a coma.

"I'll shoot ya a** up like a damn pool table.”

Yes, all kinds of kids, of all kinds of upbringings, rap such ridiculous lyrics. But when it happens before the ink is dry on a gun-at-school conviction, you're talking strike one and strike two.

The old good-kid-who-made-a-mistake argument doesn't wash. Put the gun conviction with the video, and Jarboe loses all claim to being just a knucklehead and not an outlaw.

When OU announced in late May that Jarboe's scholarship would be honored, Stoops said, "He understands that anything less than exemplary behavior will not be tolerated.”

It's quite apparent that Jarboe understands no such thing.

Jarboe has placed Stoops in quite the pickle.

Stoops stuck his neck out for Jarboe, and before the first practice, this is how Stoops is repaid. Stoops is stepping farther and farther out on a thin branch if he keeps Jarboe.

But Stoops is no stranger to thin branches, though maybe not this thin.

Stoops recalled what I wrote seven years ago, that dynasties crumble from within and he better be careful. This was after Stoops brought in Lynn McGruder, a transfer from Tennessee who was facing a felony drug charge.

McGruder became an exemplary student and even a hero for his help with a family in a burning van after an I-35 crash. The Big 12 named McGruder and teammate Mark Clayton its sportsmen of the year.

That's a great story. McGruder was at a crossroads, where his life could spiral into a mess, and instead OU football helped him turn triumphant in the most meaningful of ways.

Stoops knows what he's doing. But I'm glad it's his reputation, and not mine, that rests in the hands of Josh Jarboe.


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This situation is all about character. Jarboe should have been thanking the University of Oklahoma for allowing him a chance after the incident. To me it seemed that he was tied to a lifestyle that is not fit for college students. After the events at Virginia Tech, there is no way that I feel safe with my loved ones that attend school there. The few that have brought such terror to schools in the past fifteen years are the ones to blame. Talking about shooting people on a college campus is almost as bad as saying, "Bomb!" on an airplane. Especially, after the charges against this kid. It's called common sense. Dave, you are a disgrace to Oklahoma for your narrow thinking. This isn't about Stoops. This is about campus like at the University of Oklahoma. You can bet that Boren was involved in the decision.
Chris, Oklahoma City - Aug 3, 2008 2:04 PM
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Matt from moore: I'm pretty sure that Johnny Cash went to Viet Nam and the others didn't bring a gun to school before singing a song about it. Racism, get real. Not even the same situation.
Chris, Oklahoma City - Aug 3, 2008 1:56 PM
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From another article: "Habern briefly pokes his head in the background of the video, which was filmed inside the Bud Wilkinson House, an all-male dormitory comprised largely of athletes." Clearly states that the video was shot at OU so it would put it time wise after the gun felony charges.
Larry, Oklahoma City - Aug 2, 2008 3:18 AM
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John, Stigler: Remember that too. This wasn't some freshman "kid" as Humphreys made him out to be, but wasn't he a 5th year Senior? Wasn't his major Airport Administration? A tad ironic. Humphreys was a terrible Mayor and someone I wouldn't trust to make change for a dollar (true of most politicians). Sadly I voted for the man before he showed his true colors.
Larry, Oklahoma City - Aug 2, 2008 12:09 AM
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Balme it on racism, Stoops, Jarboe's upbringing. Whatever. I'm tired of hearing about kids like this with an obvious gift, throwing away a GOLDEN OPPORTUNITY! There are plenty of other kids that could only wish and dream of having a scholarship from OU or any school for that matter. Jarboe made ANOTHER costly mistake. Maybe it is what he needed to get his stuff together. Maybe OU should have walked away from the deal back when? I'm sure Jarboe has an aspiring career in rap'in. Keep up the good work Stoops. Boomer Sooner!!!
Brennon, Granbury - Aug 1, 2008 10:31 PM
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no school is going to allow any student, especially one who already has trouble with guns, to rap, write, speak or whatever about killing people and continue at school. ask Virginia Tech about that. i'm pretty sure this idiot wasn't planning a massacre but hey, he's already been busted bringing a gun to school.
jeff, midwest city - Aug 1, 2008 9:03 PM
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Racism? wtf? Matt, pull your head out. Look at the kids history. Sounds like a good quality kid huh? If you throw out the previous felony gun charge like it never happened, then maybe this "rap" has little significance. But, you can't so don't call this "racism at work" Call it stupidity at work on the part of a punk kid who can't seem to figure out what is right and what is wrong. Common sense goes a long way and unfortunately, this kid has none.
brian, oklahoma city - Aug 1, 2008 8:55 PM
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I agree that there is some racism at work here. I dont think it is from Stoops, but from the general public. Jarboe aside, because he is obviously not a smart kid. I like guns, I went to the range tonight in fact, and Im not a rap fan, but I know enough to know that was not a good rap. I am a country music fan however, and I wonder if we would react the same as when we hear a black kid rapping as opposed to a white kid singing one of the many country songs that reference shooting, killing, drinking and other irresponsible acts. Johnny Cash spoke of killing a man just to watch him die and killing his (fictional) wife. The Dixie Chicks killed Earl. Blake Shelton sang of killing and then escaping from prison. Reba sang about prostitution. Garth spoke of killing twice, once in the extended version of Thunder Rolls and then in Papa Loved Mama. Should I go on??? What about all the drinking references??? Like I said, Im not defending this kid or rap music, but lets call a spade a spade and get off our moral high horse.
matt, Moore - Aug 1, 2008 8:48 PM
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blacks will always be a silly people as long as they act silly and kill each other. the whole culture celebrates fatherless children, degrading women and criminal behavior. then there's a huge uproar when the culture isn't taken seriously. if leaders, like obama says he is, doesn't start speaking out against the downward cultural spiral blacks in this country are now embracing they'll never be able to move beyond this time when atheletes, rappers and thugs are celebrated and doctors, lawyers and buisness execuitives are called uncle toms and sell-outs. this issue is much bigger than bob stoops. its all about acting responsible.
jeff, midwest city - Aug 1, 2008 8:26 PM
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Stoops is an embarrassment to the University and the State of Oklahoma. His only success was with players recruited by John Blake. On his own Stoops has been a disaster for OU.
Dave, Oklahoma City - Aug 1, 2008 8:13 PM
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Freedom of speech, just watch what yOU say. Now I no way condone Jarboe's wack rap, and I think he was dumb for takin a gun to school, but seriOUsly, kickin a guy off the team for kickin a rhyme? What is the world comin to? And if it wasn't recorded and put on yOUtube, he'd still be a Sooner. Is it me or is thug the new term for n!gger nowadays? I have never heard of a white person, regardless of his actions be called a thug or goon? Noone called Dusty a thug when he put his friend in the hospital. Noone called Tim McVeigh a thug either. yOU can say what yOU want, but this whole thing wreaks of racism. I attended OU and I lived in Oklahoma 10 years and i will be the 1st to say, there's alot less tolerance for blacks than it is in a city like ATL, that's a predominantly black city. Now I'm sure yall gonna rip and roast me, but I call it how I see it. Cuz most of yall haven't walked in a black kid's shoes. I think he shOUld've been benched, but dismissing him for rappin is a crock. If that's the case he shOUld've never been given the oppurtunity to play @ OU in the first place after the gun incident. What's worse, catchin a gun charge or kickin a rap? Cuz @ the end of the day, that's what he got dismissed for. Are Okies that fearful of rap music? If yall mad @ Jarboe for his words, then turn off the news, cuz its much more violent.
Jiohdee, atlanta - Aug 1, 2008 7:47 PM
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David, Norman - Aug 1, 2008 7:07 PM
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Don't know if Josh truely has violent tendencies, but definately has a propensity for being a dumbass so I say good riddence thugzz. Don't want people like him in my town. Sure, free speech amd all- I work with troubled kids and can say overcoming the glorification of the thug life and gun violence and the joint is a challange. He had to go after the gun charge, then shooting this moronic video on university property. Enjoy the thug life - adios dumbass.
David, Norman - Aug 1, 2008 7:06 PM
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Nibb High Football Rules ! ! !
christopher, oklahoma city - Aug 1, 2008 4:12 PM
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Good points David...now is where Jarboes future starts. It could go either way, its all up to him. He wont be able to blame anyone but himself.
Tom, bethany - Aug 1, 2008 3:52 PM
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OSU=Win at all costs because of one player. Haha! So great.
Jacob, Kansas - Aug 1, 2008 3:31 PM
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JD, reading your comments make me laugh. You will never know anything outside the OU box, will you? Comical.
Jacob, Kansas - Aug 1, 2008 3:30 PM
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Stoops has done the right thing in dismissing Jarboe. Jarboe now has a choice in life....an important one. Do you clean up your act and become a human...maybe even better...such as a good citizen...or do you become the thug everyone now expects of you. Good luck Josh. I hope you make the right decision and take the right route.
David, Grant - Aug 1, 2008 3:09 PM
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the oklahoman is without a doubt the worst paper ever, anywhere! who writes this thing? 12 year old future klan members? i feel sick.
tu, Oklahoma City - Aug 1, 2008 2:42 PM
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Gotcha Roger except the church of OU..understood.
Tom, bethany - Aug 1, 2008 2:41 PM
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Ollie, Sallisaw - Aug 1, 2008 2:27 PM
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Keep in mind that this is the same coach who kept Broyles on the team after his little gas stealing episode, and more importantly his failure to cooperate with police. It may be about time for these decisions to be made by someone else.
Rick, Norman - Aug 1, 2008 2:20 PM
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I just have a feeling we're asking for trouble when it comes to this kid. He's clearly a thug. Thats JUST what we need!
Brad, Purcell - Aug 1, 2008 2:18 PM
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Shouldn't the headline have read:
"Jarboe on thin ice with Stoops"
Seems more like it to me.
BRAD, MUSTANG - Aug 1, 2008 2:04 PM
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JD, I think you mean mediocre at all cost cowboys. As to Tom 7 his ilk, this has nothing to do w/OU football & everything to do with people making judgments about people they don't know based on two incidents in a person's entire life. Even country music sings about shooting people, btw. See Hank jr's Country Boy will Survive.
Jeff, Del City - Aug 1, 2008 1:59 PM
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Tom - no, my problem was with all you holier than thou types. Now i can chastise Gundy for keeping a child rapist on the team for a couple years not to mention the cop fighter. If he had the nads Stoops does, he would have done the right thing. Win at all cost cowboys.
JD, Norman - Aug 1, 2008 1:45 PM
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Ryan. I watched a video. He was in a dorm and all I saw were phones.
Roger, Keller - Aug 1, 2008 1:17 PM
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You don’t listen very well Tom. I don't go to church. I am an atheist. Church is a joke same as you and your pious attitude. So he cut him. Bad move.See. It’s just words.Just my opinion. It’s your choice if they hurt. It’s your choice if you want to go to church. So if you want to go then go.
Roger, Keller - Aug 1, 2008 1:16 PM
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tu, Oklahoma City - Aug 1, 2008 1:08 PM
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Just dismissed (jarboe) now you can start praising Stoops like he didnt do anything wrong in taking him.
Tom, bethany - Aug 1, 2008 1:07 PM
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John - Maybe you need to pick up a history book. men have been wearning ear rings for a long time (see pirates in the dictionary) tattos - see WWII, killing cops, doing drive by shootings (see Al Capone era)and having illegitimate children (long history of that, see Thomas Jefferson ie. slave children) They're only repeating history. As I once heard in a movie, "damn you dumb." Now hitch up your overalls and get back to work.
JD, Norman - Aug 1, 2008 1:06 PM
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Roger and Jd- its obvious you go the the church of OU football(that makes everything ok doesnt it). If it makes you feel better. Keep in mind many OU fans dont condone this either or ..do they..(long as he can score right)? Thats the bottom line standard for which he will be judged, am I wrong? Opps just dismissed..
Tom, bethany - Aug 1, 2008 1:05 PM
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roger, im not following....
Ryan, Dallas - Aug 1, 2008 1:03 PM
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Jarboe took the gun to school because he heard there was a KKK rally. He wanted to see them wet their sheets.
Roger, Keller - Aug 1, 2008 12:56 PM
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Tom. Go walk on some water. Preferably the water that leads to the edge of the Niagra River. Then fall off. In case you don't catch my drift, I'm an atheist. You can take all the fear tactics you’ve been brain-washed with and sell them to trees. I’m not buying.
Roger, Keller - Aug 1, 2008 12:54 PM
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Why did Jarboe feel the need to bring a gun on high school campus, anyway? Obviously, it wasn't for show-and-tell. Was he hoping to solve a problem by shooting someone? If this is he behaves at home, does anyone think he'll act any different when he 1,000 miles from home living on a college campus?
Brian, Oklahoma City - Aug 1, 2008 12:52 PM
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tom from Bethany - as i belive it, God knows Jarboe past and future. But keep on judging if it make you feel better and i'm sure it does.
JD, Norman - Aug 1, 2008 12:52 PM
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Ryan. Are you talking about the Motorola gun or the Nokia gun?
Roger, Keller - Aug 1, 2008 12:49 PM
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Do you think this is poistive for OU? Apparently Jarboe goes the the church of weapons, would you like the whole team to carry guns? Many of you dont think its a problem, why not get a whole team that way. You can recruit right there with Miami, who many of you made fun of (previously). OU can be Miami west. What do you think ..still pretty positive about it?
Tom, bethany - Aug 1, 2008 12:48 PM
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Facts:
1. Jarboe is convicted on a misdemeanor charge in high school. The fact that the initial charge was a felony is irrelevant.
2. Jarboe is seen on YouTube rapping lyrics which by rap standards are quite tame.
Now, Mr. Tramel, under the guise of a “reasonable debate”, you are inviting your overall-clad, pseudo-folksy cohorts to a good ol’ fashioned media lynching of this teenage “outlaw”?
When a homegrown Oklahoma boy with a prior alcohol misdemeanor charge dons a straw hat and cowboy boots, and sings a country song about booze drinking on YouTube, will you renew your call of “fetch the rope”?
Doubt it.
Mark, CHIANG MAI THAILAND - Aug 1, 2008 12:41 PM
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Roger, we understand that rapping is not a dismissible offense. My question is, is taking a gun to school a dissmisable offense? and back to the video... what about rapping about SHOOTING people AFTER you bring a gun to school??? and i could be wrong but i dont think he plans on going hunting with the gun he has....
Ryan, Dallas - Aug 1, 2008 12:37 PM
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Allow me to enlighten you Tom. Go sit on a steeple.There are many people including me that pay no attention to your bible or any church.Your type has caused more trouble in this world than any kid rapping.
Roger, Keller - Aug 1, 2008 12:35 PM
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JD from Norman. Your post was an inspiration to me. I admit, I really don't understand the black hip-hop movement that includes men wearing ear rings, getting tattoos, referring to women as Bitc--s and HO's; rapping about killing cops, doing drive by shootings and having illegitimate children. I know all black people believe they're victims so I guess in the sake of DIVERSITY, the University of Oklahoma will be a better place, being exposed to this point of view. GO BIG RED!
John - Aug 1, 2008 12:33 PM
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Holy carps!!! What a sh!tload of sanctimonious crackers that have no idea, scratch that, don't WANT to have any idea what it's like not to be their sniveling little bible thumping selves. I don’t know which is worse. Is it Berry trammel wanting to smack someone down over words just because of some previous actions? Previous actions don’t make words anything other than words Berry. Or is it the lOSUr fans (probably trolls) with their player’s track records pointing fingers at OU. I do believe some of the people posting and want Jarboe gone really are Sooner fans. I understand that they are gun shy (no pun intended). The rest are mostly like one poster said, living in gated communities taking a cart to the mailbox. Just a bunch of misinformed xenophobic twits with nothing to do but put into practice their “Fear of a Black Planet”!!! Poor judgment by Jarboe? Yes. Dismissible offense? Absolutely not!!!
Roger, Keller - Aug 1, 2008 12:32 PM
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Can we expect to see you or Jarboe in church JD..?? I dont believe it says you should bring a loaded gun to high school or make videos about how you'd like to shoot somebody but apparently you know it better than most. How would you say Jesus is judging Jarboe so far? Enlighten us please.
Tom, bethany - Aug 1, 2008 12:32 PM
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I hope he can play football better than he raps.
David, canton - Aug 1, 2008 12:30 PM
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you people better get off here and get ready or you'll be late for church. you know you want to get there early to ge the good seats so you can look down your nose at the unwashed as they come in the door. Some on you cryboys might wanna tell Trabor to quit thumping that Bible and read it sometime. Something about 'least ye be judged.'
JD, Norman - Aug 1, 2008 12:12 PM
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Shades of some of the troubled times for Barry Switzer. Bob Stoops needs to send this guy packing. OU doesn't need these kinds of guys to have a successful football program.
Robert, Houston - Aug 1, 2008 12:03 PM
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"But that doesn't mean he won't get a third chance. Bob Stoops is not the most sentimental of souls, no Father Flanagan, but he has a solid track record turning troubled players into solid citizens, or getting rid of them before they embarrass the school and the state too much."
Wipe some of that Stoops poop off your nose there Tramel.
Shannon, Moore - Aug 1, 2008 12:02 PM
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This may be a good thing to happen to Jarboe. Now he will realize that all OU players are under intense scrutiny by the press and the holier than thou public. Trammel, did you write anything about the child rapist who spent a couple years on the osu football team. How about the cop fighting tight end or anything about Printess Elliott who was a for real gangster. He was arrested not long ago for shooting at his girlfriends house, anything on that. It isn't news until it's about OU. I realize no one gives a crap about osu but I'm just saying.... equal time.

Oh yeah, Ryan from Edmond, hate will eat you up. Give it up before it consumes you. Being second fiddle isn't a bad thing, just a mental thing.
JD, Norman - Aug 1, 2008 11:59 AM
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"When I was just a baby,
My Mama told me, 'Son,
Always be a good boy,
Don't ever play with guns,'
But I shot a man in Reno,
Just to watch him die."
James, Norman - Aug 1, 2008 11:24 AM
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Last year you had the gas card and the coat theft before the Fiesta Bowl. This year I believe Loadholt had an issue plus Jarboe. Unless I'm missing something, thats not that much for 53 or so 18-22 year olds. So I think Stoops is doing a fine job. You all want to win but have a bunch choir boys doing it. Aint going to happen. Try pulling a random 53 or so out of neighborhood and see what problems you have. It's obvious there are some issues there, but sometimes you have to reach out to certain people. If he screws up, I am sure he'll be gone. And about embarrassing the state and all that, please. This is a problem at many schools. But calling him a scumbug, thug, punk some of you are so brave and self-righteous in print.
eudell, Virginia Beach - Aug 1, 2008 11:21 AM
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It seems a little bit of double talk to condemn the Jarboe video and tells us we are better off not seeing it, then post a link next to your column so people can go enjoy it.
Mike, Savanna - Aug 1, 2008 11:04 AM
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Doesn't Pistol Pete carry a gun? What a scumbag. Didn't Eric Clapton sing a song about shooting a sheriff? What a punk.
Jeff, Del City - Aug 1, 2008 11:03 AM
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...and here come all the Pokie fans passing judgment when they recently had a child rapist on the team. Already forget about 5th-chance Prentiss Elliott? You guys have amazingly bad memories. Rednecks who live in glass barns shouldn't throw stones.
Mike, Yukon - Aug 1, 2008 10:56 AM
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The fact that this is even a story is sad. Is this the most important topic the Oklahoman can find? I guess nothing else happened Oklahoma this week. Its just a video. And like ryan said anyway, the real embarrassment of the video was the white guy headbanging in the background. Who headbangs to rap free flow? Jarboe is from the ATL so what do you expect? Probably been hanging out with Ludacris and Outkast too long. Not everyone person is an angel like everyone from Oklahoma. The difference between Stoops and Mike Gundy is that Gundy lets guys like this on the team and still loses. Who would respect a loser like that?
jordan, the woodlands - Aug 1, 2008 10:54 AM
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The freestyle was horrible. He can't even keep a beat...but beyond that, freestyling isn't just saying what pops in your head. Most of it cliche's, and as scripture points out: "What is in the heart comes out of the mouth." This dude is ridiculous. Even to his red dreads and his blinged-out grill. The fact is, if he couldn't play football, he'd probably be running some kind of drug ring and banging it up in the 'hood. And before ya'll come at me, remember that i've lived there. i know what goes on. ya'll don't always know who you're talking to, and ya'll don't always know what people are really like behind closed doors, much less when a camera is in their face. Coach Stoops should let this fish go. He ain't a keeper.
Thomas , Tulsa - Aug 1, 2008 10:51 AM
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While he did nothing legally wrong, which is what Stoops sites as his reasons for a non-dismissal, he has done plenty that is morally wrong. I don't care if it would hurt his feelings or not give him his "third chance". Sometimes that is how people learn-when they hit rock bottom. He needs to hit that point instead of being rewarded with a football scholarship to a premier school where he will get put on national tv, and get more exposure to feed his humongous ego. Not to mention that OU football players are treated like princes in the town of Norman. I am sure his celebrity status now will only increase.
Chad, oklahoma city - Aug 1, 2008 10:50 AM
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It is true that Coach Stoops has earned respect in how he handles the discipline of his players. He has consistently shown good judgment regarding this. I suspect his decision about Jarboe is based on similar principles he has used previously. It doesn't mean he won't be betrayed at some point. However, it does mean he should be allowed to handle disciplinary matters without much in the way of criticism at this point.
Matt - Aug 1, 2008 10:49 AM
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Unquestionably he has a bad sense of judgement. It seems like Jenna Plumlee's punishment is worse, for a lesser crime...although a free year of school is hardly a punishment. I definitely think the rules should be more strict for all college students on scholarship, especially for charges involving drugs and firearms.
BRAD, MUSTANG - Aug 1, 2008 10:42 AM
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Well, he certainly LOOKS like a fine young man. I doubt there will be any lingering issues with him whe he arrives in Norman.

Perhaps President Boren will look into the cultural merit of a Gaylord School of Rap?
John, Ada - Aug 1, 2008 10:40 AM
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I liked Flava Flav.......Yeah Boiiiiiiii!
bob, Oklahoma City - Aug 1, 2008 10:19 AM
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Hopefully he isn"t another P Elliott but I can"t imagine OU is desperate enough to honor his scholarship. Losing his scholarship might be good for his future, he would realize the consequences of his behavior.
doug, colcord - Aug 1, 2008 10:17 AM
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We do need to look at this issue with rose colored glasses. It was not to long ago the O.U. fraternity member Charles Alfred Dreylin carried a live bomb into Will Rogers Airport. His friend Kirk Humphries went to bat for him and got him off with a slap on the wrist. He was even allowed to immediately return to O.U. to finish his last semester. This was with the O.U. administration knowing that he had carried bombs to class with him because he intended to go to the Canadian river basin to set them off after class. So, this guy walks into an airport with enough explosives to cut a 777 into many pieces, and he pays a week's worth of his allowance, and walks back to campus one week later.
Give Jarboe a break. He's small potatoes who's getting all this free publicity for an eventual CD release or his intro to the pro drafts.
John, Stigler - Aug 1, 2008 10:16 AM
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I think it is a little quick to throw the young man off the team just yet- I would guess that Coach will doing something to get his attention and then after that it is on the kid to respond. Tramel by the way is an absolute professional. Yesterday he did his spot on the Sports Animal WHILE he actively played golf-- that shows how seriously he takes his responsibility as a reporter!
Neal, Marlow - Aug 1, 2008 10:09 AM
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Whether or not you think Jarboe's antics are a big deal, or not a big deal, one this is obvious: THE KID IS A DUMBA$$!
adam, broken arrow - Aug 1, 2008 10:07 AM
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I wonder what Barry Switzer would do.
B, Geary - Aug 1, 2008 10:00 AM
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To put your job, family, future in jeopardy for a thug like this is insanity. Sometimes it isn't so obvious to the one at risk, been there and done that. Stoops may want to re-examine his priorities and this punk would low on the list, at least from my perspective.
ED, DUMAS - Aug 1, 2008 9:53 AM
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But I do like your writing Berry.
MrBigglesworth, Sweetwater - Aug 1, 2008 9:52 AM
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First I was mad, but then I read the lyrics of what Jarboe said. Living in an inner-city of Atlanta is a whole nother world compared to Norman or Edmond. Stoops and even Gundy, have traveled enough on recruiting visiting to see the kind of environments that these kids are raised in. You can't get all your players from Edmond.

I like the line were Berry wrote "Jarboe has placed Stoops in a pickle" Seriously, do you see Berry Tremel relating to these kids. That phrase makes me think of someone who lives within a gated community and drives a golf cart to check to mail.
MrBigglesworth, Sweetwater - Aug 1, 2008 9:51 AM
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...haven't seen the video yet, though I'm guessing he made it on behalf of some youth guidance agency talking about how guns in the hands of drugged up woman-abusing criminals is a bad idea?
Kevin, Oklahoma City - Aug 1, 2008 9:49 AM
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I'm an OU alum and big Bob Stoops fan, but to blame the internet is ridiculous. I would think the staff would like to know a player, they took a chance on, obviously does not respect the situation he put them in. I believe, more than likely, he will be a cancer. Character matters!
M, Oklahoma City - Aug 1, 2008 9:46 AM
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For if you forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father also will forgive you; but if you do not forgive men their trespasses neither will your father forgive your trespasses. Matthew 6:14-15
James, Norman - Aug 1, 2008 9:40 AM
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It appears that Stoops is following the Switzer game plan and trying to give OU fans the best penal football team in the nation.
Randy, Norman - Aug 1, 2008 9:40 AM
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I think everyone should get off Bob Stoops back. Jarboe's good character can be a tremendous asset to the OU squad. What's one more thug, anyway? Who knows, he may clean up his act and find a cure for cancer, or win the Nobel Prize. Or, he may not.....
John - Aug 1, 2008 9:39 AM
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As a Texan (and no UT or A&M fan either)and avid OU hater, keep all the clowns you want on your team Bob boy. OU's stellar past with the angels they have makes good news.
Richard, Guthrie - Aug 1, 2008 9:36 AM
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Jimmy, you stated,"That video most likely was made around the same time he chose to make the bone headed decisions to carry the gun to school. I noticed you missed that in your column, you boob!" You are obviously the "boob", or better yet, the idiot. Look at the wall behind Jarboe in that video. It is obvious he was on the OU campus when he made the video. Nice try, though. The truth is that Jarboe appears to be more than just misguided. He appears to be a kid who enjoys the "thuggish" life and mentality. I'm not sure we have taken a chance on a lot of players like that. I hope he turns around and realizes being a product of his environment and culture is not worth ruining his life. I hope he can grow up and escape his upbringing.
Alvin, Waco - Aug 1, 2008 9:34 AM
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Scott from okc, hey Mike Gundy was a youtube star long before Jarboe.
kevin, oklahoma city - Aug 1, 2008 9:26 AM
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Also, they should suspend that dumbass who was head banging to a rap about half way through in the background
ryan, Edmond - Aug 1, 2008 9:25 AM
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He might be failing a drug test as well cause he was wasted stoned in that vid.
ryan, Edmond - Aug 1, 2008 9:21 AM
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What position does this person play? Im really not familiar with him. What he put on youtube probably really stupid considering his record in Georgia. Having said that I dont think he should necesassirly be kicked off the team. I think he is just a misguided kid that needs alittle more direction in life. And playing for OU may give him that.Am an OSU fan, I do agree with Janet about that song being a reflection of today's society.
Billy, Ponca City - Aug 1, 2008 9:17 AM
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small potatoes. lets put your kids under a camera for awhile and they are GUARANTEED to do something dumb. Give it a rest.
ed, midwest city - Aug 1, 2008 9:16 AM
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Barry you are an absolute idiot. You are no different than your co-conspirator Jenny Carlson. You too have nothing better to do than smear anything that is placed in front of you. Am I condoning what was done by Mr.Jarboe? Absolutely not but before you and your journalism pals go and start bashing, find out the entire true story before you post it. There are underlying circumstances here. He is a troubled youth, he was given a second chance and Stoops will punish if second chance is broken!! No second chance was broke. That video most likely was made around the same time he chose to make the bone headed decisions to carry the gun to school. I noticed you missed that in your column, you boob! You and your pals there at the the D.O. make me sick! Nothing but liberal journalism spread into the sports world! No wonder people are so messed up, they read your garbage!!
Jimmy, Broken Arrow - Aug 1, 2008 9:10 AM
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Just win baby!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Darran, Pawnee - Aug 1, 2008 9:10 AM
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brent, it is not just what he said in the video. it is what he said in the video after his incident at his school. I agree that the video itself is not that bad and if he wouldnt have got into trouble the first time this would not be news but after getting arrested for having a gun on school property, this video is actually deserves the publicity it is recieving. especially when the kid is dumb enough to put it on the internet himself.
Ryan, Dallas - Aug 1, 2008 9:07 AM
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It's the Cowboy's that carry guns so let's hope he is soon dismissed from the Sooners and picked up by a gun toting team! By the way, when I was in high school in the 1970's most of the pickups in the the high school parking lot had a gun visable in the back window. Too bad but this song is just a reflection of today's society. Some kids don't know any better.
Janet, Oklahoma City - Aug 1, 2008 8:51 AM
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Coach Stoops has proven himself. I hope this young man learns to make better decisions and values the respect this state has for his leader. If not, Coach will take the proper steps, for sure.
D, Oklahoma City - Aug 1, 2008 8:47 AM
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I'm extremely disappointed as a Sooner fan and I don't think it would be appropriate to let it slide without some strong words by Stoops or stadium steps but should this really get this type of attention? I don't think people, particularly over the age of 30-something realize how common this freestyle rap (especially in a group of friends) is in today's society and not just by thugs. That doesn't make it OK but I think the shock value for some is higher because they are out of touch with reality. There are plenty of white affluent kids that pull stupid pranks and create offensive You Tube videos as well. If they are an athlete or a child of a senator or congressman, it's news, but if their dad is an insurance salesman, it's not.

Jarboe is on thin ice. Not Stoops. Bob has a track record that goes beyond one player. Stoops continues to say OU did a lot of due diligence on the kid after the gun incident and everything else was fine. This has to be strike two even if Stoops downplays it. But Stoops will take care of the issue.
Brent, Dallas - Aug 1, 2008 8:42 AM
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What a bunch of hypocrytical a-holes! Taking a gun to school is a serious offense but he has been to court and "punished" for the crime. Rapping is not and never will be illegal! Therefore, quit the "holier than thou" attitude so many of you have! Bottom line is I trust Coach Stoops' decision and if this comes back to bite him and OU....then you can all say "I told you so." To question Stoops' integrity and call him a scumbag is absolutely ludicrous.
Boomer Sooner!
michael - Aug 1, 2008 8:42 AM
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I agree with you guys, Jeff and Duane. Everyone is judging this kid like you or your loved ones have never done anything wrong. I don't agree with his video, and the gun deal was TOTALLY wrong, but our society has mostly been forgiving enough to give people 2nd chances. The video should NOT be considered "strike three". That's ludicrous. It's today's culture; like it or not. I'm 50-50 with this kid. "Kid" being the key word. Only time will tell if he wants to turn his life around.
Dingle, Berry - Aug 1, 2008 8:40 AM
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Tick....tick....tick....tick
clinton, Norman - Aug 1, 2008 8:20 AM
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Much ado about nothing.
Jeff, Dallas - Aug 1, 2008 8:14 AM
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What a bunch of "holier than thou" goat ropers. Give me a break.
Duane, Oklahoma City, Ok. - Aug 1, 2008 8:10 AM
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Berry Tramel is correct. The chances of a third strike are close to a hundred percent. Apparently there has not been any tangible consequence to these antisocial behaviors. Jarboe has not learned anything.
Mike, Rockport - Aug 1, 2008 8:09 AM
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Jarboe fits right in with this program.
toby, plains - Aug 1, 2008 8:07 AM
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I hope he become a star, and has the daughters of some of these judgementalists swinging off of his sack, or whatever they call it now. Sounds like hillbilly America trying to keep a brother down. Glad the coach is the decision maker, and not the common less- than-semi-educated public. Guns keep many of them from the shame of their repressed homosexuality. America the beautiful.
Arron, Holdenville - Aug 1, 2008 8:05 AM
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If you remember Bud took a chance on Joe Don Looney in the 60's. Didn't turn out real well. Young people nowadays are lacking male and otherwise roll models but more importanly discipline. I trust Coach Bob Stoops. But I also respect his actions when problems when they have risen. remember "Bob Knows Best"
charles, Doraville - Aug 1, 2008 7:59 AM
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I see all the lOSUrs are piling on. How soon they forget that their own basketball program brough in a kid who was selling drugs and their football team brough in a kid who raped a 12 year old girl. Yup, OSU is a FINE upstanding program and would never do anything wrong. I am sure if they had a player punch a cop he would be immediately dismissed from the team.
JJ, Okc - Aug 1, 2008 7:57 AM
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If he wants to transfer to the University of Baghdad and live out all his rap lyrics, then release him. That is if the US Army will accept this thug. Needs to be gone, good riddance.
Steve, Overbrook - Aug 1, 2008 7:52 AM
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If this Jarboe punk had a shred of character left to rebuild I'd give Stoops the benefit of the doubt, but there is no character to mold. Bob, send this Jarboe head case packing.
Scoresby, norman - Aug 1, 2008 7:20 AM
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Give him the boot now, save the trouble and more embarrassment later. He's a time bomb. Should've never brought that trash to OU.

Lynn, Oklahoma City - Aug 1, 2008 7:08 AM
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Good thing that we have a white middle age male setting the values for us. I hope there will be a column praising Stoops and OU Football when Jarboe gets turn around (may be long shot, however maybe the kid needs to get out of Georgia and start fresh).

As far as guns, in the 80's, half the campus guys in the campus had shotguns (for hunting) in the back of their trucks.

So glad Trammel is protecting our rights, freedom of speech (hello, aren't you a reporter?) and freedom to own a gun. If you don't like go to Europe or Asia where they restrict these rights.
Todd, Bentonville - Aug 1, 2008 6:59 AM
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"Stoops on thin ice with Jarboe." Why? Is Jarboe going to cut Stoops' scholarship? I think the correct phraseology would be "JARBOE on thin ice with STOOPS."
jason, Oklahoma City - Aug 1, 2008 6:56 AM
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I think OU needs to look at this real close after Virgina Tech incident. OU could be setting themselves up for a big suit if something did happen.
jeffery, mwc - Aug 1, 2008 6:47 AM
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Good thing Trammel knows whats best for everyone. Had me worried.
Lawrence, Guthrie - Aug 1, 2008 6:35 AM
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Scott, yes Coach Stoops approves of child rapists being on the squad. As far as Jarboe, if he is not on his last leg with Coach Stoops, he is with me. Persons who dwell, emulate, adore, honor, glorify such behavior have no business being given the status of OU football player. I am with Berry on this one. If I were Coach Stoops I would not have my job and reputation on the line for this person if he were to be caught with a gun in his possession or attempting to get one. Yes, it is his 2nd Amendment right, but in this instance, that would be one of the terms of having a scholarship, i.e., no guns, no pictures with guns, no rap lyrics about guns, no more disturbing remarks on MySpace or YouTube, etc. Otherwise, take your act elsewhere if someone will take you.
John, Destin - Aug 1, 2008 6:29 AM
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